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	== Learning Spells ==		== Learning Spells ==

	If a character stumbles upon a spell in the wild, they may be able to study and learn it more easily than if they are making a spell on their own. The spell's wording limitations still apply That is, the spell must not use more than five words that the caster studying the spell hasn't already created spells with. Learning spells don't unlock new words in this way. In addition, the baseline creation cost of three times the casting cost must still be paid. However, no spell creation rolls typically need to be made. If the {{GM}} wants, they may attach some additional {{L\|~~Tradecrafts~~\|Metaphysics}} or other check to learning a new spell if its creator was substantially higher {{LVL}} than the caster learning it, if it's in a foreign grammar, if it uses some archaic version of Elder Sorcery, or if its especially challenging in some other way. As with creating a spell, it takes a {{L\|Core\|Long Rest}} to study one.		If a character stumbles upon a spell in the wild, they may be able to study and learn it more easily than if they are making a spell on their own. The spell's wording limitations still apply That is, the spell must not use more than five words that the caster studying the spell hasn't already created spells with. Learning spells don't unlock new words in this way. In addition, the baseline creation cost of three times the casting cost must still be paid. However, no spell creation rolls typically need to be made. If the {{GM}} wants, they may attach some additional {{L\|Tradecraft\|Metaphysics}} or other check to learning a new spell if its creator was substantially higher {{LVL}} than the caster learning it, if it's in a foreign grammar, if it uses some archaic version of Elder Sorcery, or if its especially challenging in some other way. As with creating a spell, it takes a {{L\|Core\|Long Rest}} to study one.

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	\| The incantation exclusively uses words the character has used in spells they've already made.		\| The incantation exclusively uses words the character has used in spells they've already made.
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	\| Assistance		\| Assistance Bonus
	\| +25		\| +25
	\| The spell creation is being overseen and assisted by some other powerful Elder Sorcery caster or supernatural being that is taking on personal costs from the spell and has direct power over the spell's subject matter.		\| The spell creation is being overseen and assisted by some other powerful Elder Sorcery caster or supernatural being that is taking on personal costs from the spell and has direct power over the spell's subject matter.
	\|-		\|-
	\| Assistance		\| Assistance Bonus
	\| +15		\| +15
	\| The spell creation is being overseen and assisted by some other powerful Elder Sorcery caster or supernatural being that has expertise in the spell's subject matter.		\| The spell creation is being overseen and assisted by some other powerful Elder Sorcery caster or supernatural being that has expertise in the spell's subject matter.
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	\| Assistance		\| Assistance Bonus
	\| +5		\| +5
	\| The spell creation is being assisted by other members of the party.		\| The spell creation is being assisted by other members of the party.

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	If a spell fumbles, then it is not successfully created as intended. If all the spell creation rolls where within 25 of the spell creation DC, then the creation merely {{L\|Core\|Fizzles}}, whatever resources were put into creation are consumed, and no other costs apply. This is called a '''minor fumble'''.		If a spell fumbles, then it is not successfully created as intended. If all the spell creation rolls where within 25 of the spell creation DC, then the creation merely {{L\|Core\|Fizzles}}, whatever resources were put into creation are consumed, and no other costs apply. This is called a '''minor fumble'''.

	If at least one of the spell creation rolls ~~then~~ more than 25 below the creation DC, then this causes a '''major fumble'''. In such circumstances, the {{GM}} decides on something novel that occurs based on which roll or rolls fumbled, the severity of the fumble, and the design of the spell. Since Elder Sorcery is a "language of truth", the {{GM}} may think about the fumble through the framing of what was cast ''instead'' of the intended spell. Perhaps the spell casts early partway through the creation process and turns the caster into some mutated creature instead of the simple animal they intended. Maybe it summons some odd being the caster has to fight. Maybe the spell took more resources than intended and the caster was {{L\|Drain\|Wither\|withered}} to some degree. If there was immense {{MP}} or other resources spent on the spell, some strange metaphysical phenomena could occur. Fumbles could leave lasting scars on casters or the world. Nevertheless, the {{GM}} should consider what feels appropriate given the risk the player took in creating the spell and what would make for a fun game when deciding what happens. An unlucky roll on a well designed spell shouldn't permanently cripple a character and a poorly designed spell trying to destroy the universe shouldn't leave its caster unscathed. Oftentimes a fumble marks the beginning of a new adventure or challenge for the players to overcome.		If at least one of the spell creation rolls rolled more than 25 below the creation DC, then this causes a '''major fumble'''. In such circumstances, the {{GM}} decides on something novel that occurs based on which roll or rolls fumbled, the severity of the fumble, and the design of the spell. Since Elder Sorcery is a "language of truth", the {{GM}} may think about the fumble through the framing of what was cast ''instead'' of the intended spell. Perhaps the spell casts early partway through the creation process and turns the caster into some mutated creature instead of the simple animal they intended. Maybe it summons some odd being the caster has to fight. Maybe the spell took more resources than intended and the caster was {{L\|Drain\|Wither\|withered}} to some degree. If there was immense {{MP}} or other resources spent on the spell, some strange metaphysical phenomena could occur. Fumbles could leave lasting scars on casters or the world. Nevertheless, the {{GM}} should consider what feels appropriate given the risk the player took in creating the spell and what would make for a fun game when deciding what happens. An unlucky roll on a well designed spell shouldn't permanently cripple a character and a poorly designed spell trying to destroy the universe shouldn't leave its caster unscathed. Oftentimes a fumble marks the beginning of a new adventure or challenge for the players to overcome.

	If the {{GM}} allows, a major fumble could result in a significantly modified spell that the character still gains and can rotate into. It might not do what they originally intended, but it could still be "interesting".		If the {{GM}} allows, a major fumble could result in a significantly modified spell that the character still gains and can rotate into. It might not do what they originally intended, but it could still be "interesting".

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	{{Core\|name=Elder Sorcery}}'''Elder Sorcery''' is the raw "language" of creation used to create new {{L\|Category\|Spells\|spells}} and forms of magic. It is not purely a language in the strictest sense, but a generalized encapsulation of concepts and forms that can be represented through many different mediums of creative expression. It is most often expressed in verbal, written, or symbolic forms, but has also been cast as music, visual art, and even culinary arts. Anything spoken or otherwise cast in Elder Sorcery either is or becomes "true" in some sense.		{{Core\|name=Elder Sorcery\|}}'''Elder Sorcery''' is the raw "language" of creation used to create new {{L\|Category\|Spells\|spells}} and forms of magic. It is not purely a language in the strictest sense, but a generalized encapsulation of concepts and forms that can be represented through many different mediums of creative expression. It is most often expressed in verbal, written, or symbolic forms, but has also been cast as music, visual art, and even culinary arts. Anything spoken or otherwise cast in Elder Sorcery either is or becomes "true" in some sense.

	== Incantations ==		== Incantations ==

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	'''Elder Sorcery''' is the raw "language" of creation used to create new {{L\|Category\|Spells\|spells}} and forms of magic. It is not purely a language in the strictest sense, but a generalized encapsulation of concepts and forms that can be represented through many different mediums of creative expression. It is most often expressed in verbal, written, or symbolic forms, but has also been cast as music, visual art, and even culinary arts. Anything spoken or otherwise cast in Elder Sorcery either is or becomes "true" in some sense.		{{Core\|name=Elder Sorcery}}'''Elder Sorcery''' is the raw "language" of creation used to create new {{L\|Category\|Spells\|spells}} and forms of magic. It is not purely a language in the strictest sense, but a generalized encapsulation of concepts and forms that can be represented through many different mediums of creative expression. It is most often expressed in verbal, written, or symbolic forms, but has also been cast as music, visual art, and even culinary arts. Anything spoken or otherwise cast in Elder Sorcery either is or becomes "true" in some sense.

	== Incantations ==		== Incantations ==

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	Since creating and casting Elder Sorcery is working with raw magic itself, it caries substantial risks when compared to {{L\|Category\|Conjured spells\|conjured}} spells. Any time someone creates an Elder Sorcery spell, there is some chance of "fumbling". To determine if a spell fumbles, roll {{Dice\|1d100}} four times, once for each of the following categories. For each category, the {{GM}} rates the spell on a scale from 0 to 10, based on the answers to the corresponding questions.		Since creating and casting Elder Sorcery is working with raw magic itself, it caries substantial risks when compared to {{L\|Category\|Conjured spells\|conjured}} spells. Any time someone creates an Elder Sorcery spell, there is some chance of "fumbling". To determine if a spell fumbles, roll {{Dice\|1d100}} four times, once for each of the following categories. For each category, the {{GM}} rates the spell on a scale from 0 to 10, based on the answers to the corresponding questions.
	# Incantation		# '''Incantation'''
	#: How well does the incantation match the intention of the spell. Are there other interpretations that the incant could have? Is the intended meaning the most obvious meaning of the incant?		#: How well does the incantation match the intention of the spell. Are there other interpretations that the incant could have? Is the intended meaning the most obvious meaning of the incant?
	# Intention		# '''Intention'''
	#: How doable is this intention in and of itself? Is it simple, clear, straightforward, and manageable? Or is it sprawling, far-reaching, vague, or metaphysically impossible?		#: How doable is this intention in and of itself? Is it simple, clear, straightforward, and manageable? Or is it sprawling, far-reaching, vague, or metaphysically impossible?
	# Creation Cost		# '''Creation Cost'''
	#: How appropriate is the creation cost for this spell? It must be at least 1 {{MP}} per OP of ''each'' word in the spell plus triple whatever the casting cost of the spell is (see {{L\|Ability\|Elder Sorcery Creation}}). If these criteria are met, the creation cost has a score of 8. Putting in more resources can push the creation cost up to 9 or 10. If this basic criteria is not met, the creation cost score is automatically 0. There is no downside to putting additional resources into the spell's creation cost when it comes to the spell creation roll itself. If it seems appropriate, the {{GM}} may allow other players beyond just the spell's creator to put resources into the creation cost.		#: How appropriate is the creation cost for this spell? It must be at least 1 {{MP}} per OP of ''each'' word in the spell plus triple whatever the casting cost of the spell is (see {{L\|Ability\|Elder Sorcery Creation}}). If these criteria are met, the creation cost has a score of 8. Putting in more resources can push the creation cost up to 9 or 10. If this basic criteria is not met, the creation cost score is automatically 0. There is no downside to putting additional resources into the spell's creation cost when it comes to the spell creation roll itself. If it seems appropriate, the {{GM}} may allow other players beyond just the spell's creator to put resources into the creation cost.
	# Casting Cost		# '''Casting Cost'''
	#: How appropriate is the casting cost given the intention of the spell? If it seems perfect, then a score of 10 is possible. If spell is under-costed ''or over-costed'', then the score goes down.		#: How appropriate is the casting cost given the intention of the spell? If it seems perfect, then a score of 10 is possible. If spell is under-costed ''or over-costed'', then the score goes down.

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	Since creating and casting Elder Sorcery is working with raw magic itself, it caries substantial risks when compared to {{L\|Category\|Conjured spells\|conjured}} spells. Any time someone creates an Elder Sorcery spell, there is some chance of "fumbling". To determine if a spell fumbles, roll {{Dice\|1d100}} four times, once for each of the following categories. For each category, the {{GM}} rates the spell on a scale from 0 to 10, based on the answers to the corresponding questions.		Since creating and casting Elder Sorcery is working with raw magic itself, it caries substantial risks when compared to {{L\|Category\|Conjured spells\|conjured}} spells. Any time someone creates an Elder Sorcery spell, there is some chance of "fumbling". To determine if a spell fumbles, roll {{Dice\|1d100}} four times, once for each of the following categories. For each category, the {{GM}} rates the spell on a scale from 0 to 10, based on the answers to the corresponding questions.
	# Incantation		# Incantation
	## How well does the incantation match the intention of the spell. Are there other interpretations that the incant could have? Is the intended meaning the most obvious meaning of the incant?		#: How well does the incantation match the intention of the spell. Are there other interpretations that the incant could have? Is the intended meaning the most obvious meaning of the incant?
	# Intention		# Intention
	## How doable is this intention in and of itself? Is it simple, clear, straightforward, and manageable? Or is it sprawling, far-reaching, vague, or metaphysically impossible?		#: How doable is this intention in and of itself? Is it simple, clear, straightforward, and manageable? Or is it sprawling, far-reaching, vague, or metaphysically impossible?
	# Creation Cost		# Creation Cost
	## How appropriate is the creation cost for this spell? It must be at least 1 {{MP}} per OP of ''each'' word in the spell plus triple whatever the casting cost of the spell is (see {{L\|Ability\|Elder Sorcery Creation}}). If these criteria are met, the creation cost has a score of 8. Putting in more resources can push the creation cost up to 9 or 10. If this basic criteria is not met, the creation cost score is automatically 0. There is no downside to putting additional resources into the spell's creation cost when it comes to the spell creation roll itself. If it seems appropriate, the {{GM}} may allow other players beyond just the spell's creator to put resources into the creation cost.		#: How appropriate is the creation cost for this spell? It must be at least 1 {{MP}} per OP of ''each'' word in the spell plus triple whatever the casting cost of the spell is (see {{L\|Ability\|Elder Sorcery Creation}}). If these criteria are met, the creation cost has a score of 8. Putting in more resources can push the creation cost up to 9 or 10. If this basic criteria is not met, the creation cost score is automatically 0. There is no downside to putting additional resources into the spell's creation cost when it comes to the spell creation roll itself. If it seems appropriate, the {{GM}} may allow other players beyond just the spell's creator to put resources into the creation cost.
	# Casting Cost		# Casting Cost
	## How appropriate is the casting cost given the intention of the spell? If it seems perfect, then a score of 10 is possible. If spell is under-costed ''or over-costed'', then the score goes down.		#: How appropriate is the casting cost given the intention of the spell? If it seems perfect, then a score of 10 is possible. If spell is under-costed ''or over-costed'', then the score goes down.

	For each category, you will need to roll at least the corresponding "spell creation {{DC}}" on your {{Dice\|1d100}} roll. The base DC is 25 + 10 * (10 - score) - {{LVL}}. However, the {{GM}} can choose to give bonuses or minuses for spell creation. These are categorized as a "experience bonus", an "assistance bonus", an "effort bonus", and a "metaphysics penalty". The experience bonus, is based on {{L\|Core\|Proficiency Bonus\|proficiency}} and {{L\|Core\|Fluency Bonus\|fluency}}. The assistance and effort bonuses have a maximum of +25. And the metaphysics penalty is typically negative and can take on any value. Some possible modifiers are outlined below.		For each category, you will need to roll at least the corresponding "spell creation {{DC}}" on your {{Dice\|1d100}} roll. The base DC is 25 + 10 * (10 - score) - {{LVL}}. However, the {{GM}} can choose to give bonuses or minuses for spell creation. These are categorized as a "experience bonus", an "assistance bonus", an "effort bonus", and a "metaphysics penalty". The experience bonus, is based on {{L\|Core\|Proficiency Bonus\|proficiency}} and {{L\|Core\|Fluency Bonus\|fluency}}. The assistance and effort bonuses have a maximum of +25. And the metaphysics penalty is typically negative and can take on any value. Some possible modifiers are outlined below.

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	== Incantations ==		== Incantations ==

	No matter how Elder Sorcery is being cast, it requires a mastery of the particular concepts that make up spell. These are referred to as "{{L\|Core\|words}}" and make up the fundamental pieces that spells are composed out of. The actual form of casting the spell, be it verbal, painted, brewed, or otherwise is akin to the "grammar" which strings these words together. The specific composition of words and grammar for a spell is referred to as its "incantation".		No matter how Elder Sorcery is being cast, it requires a mastery of the particular concepts that make up spell. These are referred to as "{{L\|Core\|Elder Sorcery Words\|words}}" and make up the fundamental pieces that spells are composed out of. The actual form of casting the spell, be it verbal, painted, brewed, or otherwise is akin to the "grammar" which strings these words together. The specific composition of words and grammar for a spell is referred to as its "incantation".

	=== The Role of Words ===		=== The Role of Words ===

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	\| Experience Bonus		\| Experience Bonus
	\| +10 * {{F}}		\| +(10 * {{F}})
	\| This is an area that the character is particularly fluent in based on other spells they've created, things they've done, ''and'' certain abilities they have. This bonus should only be given out under truly exceptional circumstances.		\| This is an area that the character is particularly fluent in based on other spells they've created, things they've done, ''and'' certain abilities they have. This bonus should only be given out under truly exceptional circumstances.
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	\| Experience Bonus		\| Experience Bonus
	\| +10 * {{P}}		\| +(10 * {{P}})
	\| This is an area that the character is particular proficient in based on other spells they've created, things they've done, or certain abilities they have.		\| This is an area that the character is particular proficient in based on other spells they've created, things they've done, or certain abilities they have.
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	\| Experience Bonus		\| Experience Bonus
	\| +10 * {{P}}		\| +(10 * {{P}})
	\| The incantation exclusively uses words the character has used in spells they've already made.		\| The incantation exclusively uses words the character has used in spells they've already made.
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	\| This is an area that the character is particular proficient in based on other spells they've created, things they've done, or certain abilities they have.		\| This is an area that the character is particular proficient in based on other spells they've created, things they've done, or certain abilities they have.
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			\| Experience Bonus
	\| +10 * {{P}}		\| +10 * {{P}}
	\| The incantation exclusively uses words the character has used in spells they've already made.		\| The incantation exclusively uses words the character has used in spells they've already made.